If that is the case Subsparx, the Caldari don't deserve you. I can think of a few Gal Mil corps that are recruiting though

@Estella: yes, one person in our top 10 will be getting a free Orthrus from me, the rest will be getting comets.

Oicx, 02 March - 06 March. This is Oicx Round 1.

1. 1100 pilots lost 2200 ships and 300 pods, totaling 42.5 Billion isk.
2. 157 Gallente vs 262 Caldari, plus 400 neutrals. I put TEST and BNI in the neutral category.
3. Gallente lost half of the 600 ships fielded, totaling 9.2 Billion - including one dread.
4. Caldari losses were again around 73% of the 775 ships fielded, totaling 19.3 Billion.
5. Neutrals including BNI and TEST lost half of the 650 ships fielded, totaling 7 Billion.
6. If we add TEST to CalMil and leave BNI neutral, we get 315 pilots for Caldari, a loss rate of 75%, and 20 billion in losses.

Definitely hurt for your side.

One thing I'm noticing is that even when outnumbered - which is pretty much always - the Gallente tend to inflict a much higher loss ratio on their opponents.

In other words...

... DAMN we're good!

You may want to actually go look at the killboards before making statements that are easily proven false.

LOL all I stated was that I didn't know what the current Bohica group is doing but that they aren't in FW right now, and that Into the Ether left for Razor. Somebody had already asked about that, and noticed it. I didn't provide anything that hadn't already been noticed. Please explain how that requires spying? They aren't even Cal Mil anymore. Would you like me to give you some intel on what corporations are in Goonswarm and Pandemic Legion as well? I can read the in-game member list and provide that if your spies are that incapable of reading.

Umm, I've heard, that Heydieles was a main base of Gal militia for a long time. In year 2014 it was held by us for a long 3 weeks out of 8 month time. Ladistier was never flipped in 2014.

So I got a filling, that top corps in Gal militia decided to farm kills from unexperienced Caldari newbees in systems close to Citadel region and in return top corps in Cal mititia let them do this since they are allowed to do same to gallente FW newbees in Essence.

I plan to join FW after I will stabilize my income so I can lose tens of ships without buying new PLEX each few days, so I am really interested in getting correct picture, where to go. At this moment Placid seems to be the only region, where gallente FW newbee can learn how to fight and not just farm plexes. Black Rise is far away and it is not a Galentian territory, Essence is given to top Cla militia players, who occasionaly come into Verge Vendor since it is close. I will have hard time to get into Black Rise in one piece and I will surely not get a chance to learn something fighting Nasranite Watch.

You're a legend in your own lunchbox Crosi. Still <3 you though.
Don't take things so personally and serious dude - try to remember it's a game, not a lifestyle. ;)

You have 'personally killed' 20 ships for a value of 393mil in the last month.

Not knocking your obviously good record but claiming to have 'personally killed' every ship that you appear on the KM for is a bit meh.

Comparing corp and individual top line numbers is not a fair comparison at all and I'm pretty sure you know it. If you want a fair comparison on those grounds you will need to sum the numbers for the individuals in the corp. (edit - which corp is it?)

Not semantics, just reasonable analysis of the data. Which, by the way, is a big part of my day job

I think it's your ego Weaseldo that is Number One here..............

You sought to inflate the difference by comparing their entire corp's activities to 'little ol' me', when comparing killboards stats for an individual and a corp with more than one member is statistically pointless. So, we now move on to comparing your corp to theirs in an attempt to justify your initial analysis. But, of course, your corp is not comparable since it only has one active member. Comparing apples and oranges is rarely fruitful


You are just perpetuating your fallacious reasoning here. Your single toon does not get more activity than their entire corp just because it gets on more killmails, unless 'activity' is defined in a particularly thin manner which would then undermine the point of the comparison between you and them. All a comparison of the two numbers shows is that you made at least some contribution to more kills than they did but this provides no context for judging any kind of rich sense of 'activity' as it ignores the type of kills in which both parties were involved and the level of contribution they made to those kills.

Killboards are, and always have been, extremely crude instruments for measuring activity. When a crude instrument is combined with an inappropriate comparison the data that comes out has little to no value.

Your argument is not 'sufficiently robust' - it is fallacious in places, riddled with holes, and grounded on a foundation of sand. The fact that you might be right about your conclusion doesn't help with that, any-more than the claim that 'the fairies will make the dice come up with a double six this time because I have been unlucky in the past' is validated if the dice do happen to roll these numbers. But good attempt.

Argument by assertion ... nice. I guess simply repeating 'I'm right' is easier than responding to the points I made.

If you don't want to compare a single player to a corp then by all means, compare our corp to theirs.

No, that's a far more reasonable place to start from than your initial attempt. At the very least it is comparing things of the same type, which is a great development.

Let's leave aside the question of whether a crude equation of quantity of killmails with PvP activity is warranted, for the moment, and move on to explaining why data about these two particular corps should be taken as representative of the regions in which they live and fight. Are they both the top corps in their respective regions? Or, if we chose different corps for our illustration would this dramatic difference in kills disappear, or at least be mitigated?

Heyd, 5244 jumps in the last 24
Nisuwa, 1565 jumps in the last 24

You may want to look at how many jumps apart they are as well before you decide that has a giant difference. It isn't like we are comparing FW lowsec to non-fw lowsec corps, or corps that live more than a handful of jumps away from each other.

The entire bit is just ridiculous when all that is getting pointed out is taking Heyd/Lad/Deven is, and can be, done anytime we want. We don't get more decent pew pew out of doing so, it is just blobbing the system, taking it, then letting them take it back in a week or two since no one but them wants to live there. Taking Okkamon was harder than taking Heyd, and got us more pew.

You flatter yourself. My main has been making over-long analytical posts designed to make the reader commit suicide for five years or so. I think I'm somewhere around 4000 posts and 1.2 million words on the eve-o forums now. My posts in this thread are nothing unusual.